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| Message Board > Fenix / Bennu / Gemix / DIV > DIV is back!... Gemix Studio, the new DIV3 |
| May 4, 2008, 23:42 | |
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link3rn3l
Whiskered 78 posts |
download: http://www.managervirtual.net/GemixStudioB5.zip more info: http://forum.divsite.net/viewthread.php?tid=6055 ____________ |
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| May 5, 2008, 00:02 | |
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DTM
Earthling! 821 posts 
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*hyperventilates* the download... is so slow... must breathe... ____________ :o |
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| May 5, 2008, 00:20 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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Well.. That certainly is something, it works very well. This needs a news story... [Edited on May 5, 2008 by Fiona] ____________ laffo |
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| May 5, 2008, 00:29 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts 
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I've read this yesterday but from what I understood it's not that interesting. The current WIP version of Bennu remains superior in any way I can think of, not to mention it's opensource and free. Still nice people making an effort for this, though. ____________ BennuWiki Yes, my avatar has grey borders in IE (so get a decent browser) ROOFLEZ ROOFLEZ |
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| May 5, 2008, 00:48 | |
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DTM
Earthling! 821 posts
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Hmmm, yes. I've just had a play with it and it's not exactly a "studio" as I hoped... But it's definitely pretty cool to be playing those old DIV games again 
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| May 5, 2008, 01:14 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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Quoting Sandman: I've read this yesterday but from what I understood it's not that interesting. The current WIP version of Bennu remains superior in any way I can think of, not to mention it's opensource and free. Still nice people making an effort for this, though. The difference seems to be that this plays DIV games near enough out of the box. Myself and Frim have just been going through all his old games, the ones we have source for anyway, and it seems nearly flawless. Apart from the fact that there's no networking stuff, and we haven't been able to test if it has any Mode 8 because of that. It's pretty good though, it spits out .exes, so we could replace all the DOS DIV games on this site with Windows versions if we have the source for them. ____________ laffo |
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| May 5, 2008, 15:00 | |
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yonni
None 420 posts |
Well it may just be the games that came with it, but they all seemed really unresponsive, and I really really do not want to run "SHAG.PRG"
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| May 5, 2008, 15:31 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts 
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I tried it yesterday too, and my first RTS compiled and ran without any problems. I also like how it outputs executables and I think it also should be mentioned the IDE (albeit really a minimal application) is fully in English, which really is excellent for software that comes from Spain. It's good as enrichment for the Bennu/Fenix/DIV scene, but except for playing/compiling old DIV games it doesn't seem greatly useful for anything yet. If the makers want people to actively use this language they certainly should be working towards making it Fenix/Bennu compatible, because right now those are far ahead (besides the fact that Gemix has 32 bit colors), and I doubt anyone will go back from Fenix/Bennu to a DIV 2 clone. I think this also should have priority over implementing 3D or networking. While it would really be a pity, they might get a whole lot of legal problems if they attempt to commercially exploit this on their own, because they fully cloned DIV, they are bundling all official example programs that came with DIV 2, they use the DIV font, and they don't have a license to justify their MP3 functionality. In order for this to work they should probably pair up with Avanquest, which as far as I know currently holds the rights to DIV. This would be a win-win situation - a lot of legal trouble would be cleared and Avanquest could distribute Gemix studio in the UK and possibly other parts of Europe. Quoting Fiona: we could replace all the DOS DIV games on this site with Windows versions if we have the source for them. 3 out of 4 DIV games on this website are Frimkron's.  [Edited on May 5, 2008 by Rincewind] ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| May 5, 2008, 16:48 | |
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Sandman
F3n!x0r 1194 posts
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The current version of Bennu supports 32bit as well, but this version is not yet released publicly.
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| May 5, 2008, 16:58 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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Quoting Rincewind: In order for this to work they should probably pair up with Avanquest, which as far as I know currently holds the rights to DIV. This would be a win-win situation - a lot of legal trouble would be cleared and Avanquest could distribute Gemix studio in the UK and possibly other parts of Europe. Do you really think that Avanquest would invest the money necessary to distribute a piece of software with such a small niche that you could probably count the people in the UK who would buy it on release on two hands? That's not risk, that's just throwing money away. [Edited on May 5, 2008 by Fiona] ____________ laffo |
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| May 5, 2008, 18:26 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Fasttrak distributed DIV and DIV 2 with success, no? And what about the other successful game programming languages? Sure the market for game programming languages might be relatively small, but there's obviously a market for it. Now whether Avanquest will pair up with the makers of Gemix Studio is up to both parties, I am only saying that for it to work out well legally the Gemix folks could attempt to pair up with Avanquest. Alternatively they could attempt to buy a license or buy the rights. In order for the Gemix makers to be attractive to a publisher in the first place of course their piece of software should be able to compete - the finished product might well end up not be, and in its current form it won't stand a chance, but since it's intended to be a commercial product the makers will probably strive for it. It is not finished yet and they still have to implement 3D functions, so who knows. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| May 5, 2008, 18:51 | |
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RST
Beardless 3 posts |
Note from the Gemix Studio authors Gemix is only 'a language' to be a part on the Gemix Studio. Others more advanced Div-Style will be present on the final product. This beta is only to show the product to the people and to allow the maximun number of them to test the most big number of programs to know the possible bugs and other minor issues. Also the final IDE will not be the one on the beta because an advanced one is actually a work in progress. If it is necessary to look for agreements between Avanquest and the authors, it will do. Please have patience since the development of all this is very long and hard. Thanx [Edited on May 5, 2008 by RST] ____________ |
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| May 5, 2008, 19:25 | |
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Rincewind
programmer 1545 posts
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Quoting RST: Gemix is only 'a language' to be a part on the Gemix Studio. Others more advanced Div-Style will be present on the final product. Quote: Also the final IDE will not be the one on the beta because an advanced one is actually a work in progress. Sounds good! Keep up the good work.  Quote: If it is necessary to look for agreements between Avanquest and the authors, it will do. Just to give a little more info on the current situation (you might know this already): Fasttrak, the company that distributed DIV 1 and DIV 2 in the UK, bought the world wide rights to DIV in 2001. Then Avanquest bought Fasttrak. ____________ Personal website: http://www.loijson.com |
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| May 5, 2008, 20:51 | |
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(. )( .)
top pussy 447 posts 
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Quoting Rincewind: Then Avanquest bought Fasttrak. Why on earth would anybody buy Fasttrak. It could easily beat the competition by being not all no comprhendes spanish. ____________ gay |
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| May 5, 2008, 20:57 | |
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Mezzmer
Square-theorist 792 posts 
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it's because mike green had a crack addiction and spent all fasttrack's money on online gambling. i hear it was more "take the company for free" time. ____________ |
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| May 5, 2008, 23:13 | |
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Htbaa
Perl 368 posts 
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Downloaded it myself as well. Funny to play Tokenkai with sound! I actually bought the full game from the store for about € 12,- :-)
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| May 6, 2008, 00:49 | |
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Dennis
どこかにいる 2092 posts 
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Stop living in the 8 bit world you div scum and join the 24 bit centuary where it doesn't matter if you can spell or not! seriously: annyone tried this? Is it good?I want to compile my div doom source   [Edited on May 6, 2008 by Dennis] ____________ Kwakkel |
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| May 6, 2008, 03:20 | |
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link3rn3l
Whiskered 78 posts |
Gemix features available at the moment: * 100% compatibility with DIV2 (if your program does not use the name of the new functions, constants or variables, is unnecessary to change any line of code). * 100% modular, the program uses just the modules it needs. * 2D engine with different types of renderings: Software, MMX * Different kinds of graphic modes: Real, Virtual * Color Depth: 8, 16 and 32 bits * Sprite effects: rotation, master scaling and/or by axis, H/VMIRROR, GHOST * Blending effects: alpha, light, dark, shade on 16 and 32 bits * Entirely customizable cutting-edge audio system - supports PCM, WAV, MP2, MP3, OGG, MOD, S3M, XM, IT, MID and CD formats - possibility of choose the kind of driver to use. - possibility of play different musics at the same time. - allocation of the audio channels available. - high-quality mixer: ---> No interpolation ---> Linear interpolation ---> Cubic interpolation ---> 5 point spline interpolation - sample bits on 8, 16, 24, 32 bits and floating point - sample rate from 11050hz (poor) to 192000hz (HQ Mastering) - types of output speakers: mono, stereo, prologic * Mode7 * Scroll Parallax 2-way * extensive library for string manipulation (more than 70 functions) * support of a maximum of 8 digital or analogic joysticks. * More than 420 functions .... Mode8 and Network coming soon..!! License is free for non comercial apps.(very good) Pay a license for comercial projects...(perfect) ____________ |
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| May 6, 2008, 12:54 | |
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Dennis
どこかにいる 2092 posts
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Does network also implies TCP/IP and internet networking. I remember that DIV2 only had LAN possibilities...
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| May 7, 2008, 16:16 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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Quoting Dennis: Stop living in the 8 bit world you div scum and join the 24 bit centuary where it doesn't matter if you can spell or not! seriously: annyone tried this? Is it good?I want to compile my div doom source Why are you posting something I said 5 years ago? I've got copyright on that shit. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| May 8, 2008, 11:50 | |
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Dennis
どこかにいる 2092 posts
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Because I am your slut? It was the best thing ever on div-arena. ____________ Kwakkel |
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| May 8, 2008, 13:02 | |
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Mezzmer
Square-theorist 792 posts
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steady now steady
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| May 8, 2008, 14:27 | |
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Dennis
どこかにいる 2092 posts
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Great Jar Jar Binks imitation! He says that right before the droids attack naboo.
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| May 8, 2008, 15:38 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts
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Quoting Dennis: Because I am your slut? It was the best thing ever on div-arena. You but now I get royalties as well as cheese on you. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| May 8, 2008, 16:25 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts 
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Quoting link3rn3l: * More than 420 functions lmco ____________ boredome is the bitter fruit of too much routine |
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