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August 17, 2005, 00:49
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

The current BS host (Websspace) appears to be bought out by another company and ceases to exist. I received an e-mail that all files on Websspace's servers are going to be transferred to servers of the new hosting company very soon, and I urge Ferret to immediatly make a good backup - also of the DB.

The host which is taking over looks rather like sheisse, since their packages only have a "Fair usage" bandwidth. Fair usage is never fair usage, it's usage as the host pleases - that doesn't cover massive usage.

Anyway, I still have a right on what I bought when the company was still websspace, so no trouble for now except this transfer. They say it might take 2 days. :wtf:

I also hope they don't fuckup the control panel and it's settings (or switch to another system), then it might give a lot of trouble.

Sorry guys!
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August 17, 2005, 01:45
Fiona
games are terrible
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Bollocks. Okay I'll make a backup tonight. Cunts.
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August 20, 2005, 19:34
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

Rincewind you're working on a Tesla coil? o_O
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August 20, 2005, 21:27
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

Yeah I am ;) I've been wanting to do that for a few years now, and this was the time to start since it allows me to combine hobby and school (now I can let it count as a 'schoolproject'). I'll post pictures whenever I've come to a point worthy to make photos.
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August 21, 2005, 00:12
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

That is too awesome for words. Good luck with that - can't wait to see the photos....


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August 21, 2005, 00:21
TheMI3
Starving Artist
520 posts

ROFFLECOPTOR
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August 24, 2005, 21:28
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

I can only dream of building a Tesla magnifier as a first Tesla coil. Mine will be a bit smaller. :P

In case anyone cares:

I got a sparkgap and a capacitor bank done now, and I own a neon transformer (8Kvolt @ 30 mA), 8 meters of neon wire, a variac, and a pvc tube with closing caps to wind the secondary coil on. The only things I got to do left is winding both of the coils; not the easiest task.

And about the server migration:

I just got an e-mail that the company which was taking over Websspace 'destroyed' the take-over contract since they were struck by a sudden opposition of customers with appearantly a couple of thousands of complaints.

So, I suppose everything is in Webbspace's hands again, luckily.
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August 25, 2005, 16:40
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

Yay the site's back. I was getting worried.
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August 31, 2005, 16:25
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

Euh, the recent downtime was caused by the following:

The take-over party (who went under the name GNS-NL) was actually a single person and said he was doing the take-over of Websspace for a big mother company.

Though our GNS-NL guy did work for this company, the company denied any connection the take-over attempt and fired the guy.

So, this guy was pretty much swindling everyone. He probably had an idea of making a lot of money out of this somehow using his company's name. There have been more cases in which persons fakely take over companies, and get away with a whole lot of payments. This guy noticed this was going all wrong and took the GNS-NL site offline, sent all Websspace members an e-mail that the company returned to the hands of the former owner with the fake reason that 'there were too much complains by members and that he wasn't informed about that when he started the takeover'.

The original owner of Websspace, Jan de Volder, was on holiday in Spain on costs of the GNS-NL guy, who told him it would be better if he didn't have to care about the transfer and would relax a little; our GNS-NL guy would take care of it.

But as the GNS-NL guy destroyed the take-over contract (because he got discovered), Jan de Volder was screwed for being far away in Spain while getting swindled.

When hearing of this de Volder came back, but he still thinks he sold it all to 'GNS-NL' and refuses to take Websspace back.

Now both GNS-NL and Jan de Volder say Websspace isn't theirs, and while they are fighting this out through lawyers, the customers got caught in the middle.

In the meantime, one of the 4 Websspace servers went down and the DNS server went down (and that is why Booleansoup was unreachable for the last week).

Jan de Volder and GNS-NL both refuse to touch the servers. Jan de Volder says it isn't his, and GNS-NL says this too.

So far the customer-friendlyness.

I made a backup of Booleansoup 2 days ago while it was unreachable through http, I could access ftp through the server's IP (equalling dorado.websspace.com) and could also log into plesk through the same url and made a backup of the database.

I am not sure how long they will keep refusing to touch the servers, but I thought it'd be wise to move the site back to Hostonce again to keep it online until I payed for new (nice) hosting.

Websspace was actually a very nice host for about 10 months of the year I payed for, with a great speed and a great uptime. Just until now. :wtf:

The new hosting I'm trying to buy is hosted on the same network and will have the same in speed, though the package is a bit lighter:

1250 MB Websspace
20 GB/Month bandwidth

Also it has all options the websspace server had, it even has an easier control panel, DirectAdmin instead of Plesk.

Anyway it might take a little while until I got it payed. Oh, and we can upgrade this package anytime when Boolean Soup gets populair, but in that case you're all going to contribute to the payments as it will get too expensive for me alone.

Oh, and as Frim noticed the avatars and zips are gone, I couldn't back those up from the Websspace server because of some weird reading protection.

[/real life soap];)

[Edited on August 31, 2005 by Rincewind]
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August 31, 2005, 20:54
Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN
722 posts

Good to know. And thanks for managing the hosting, Rince.
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September 11, 2005, 00:04
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

Today I noticed the dutch hosting is back up again, here.

Probably because the two arguing hosting parties contacted a third party to fix the servers while they were, and still are, in a legal conflict.

If this is going to stay online permanently again, we could move back, but let's first spectate it for some time.
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September 11, 2005, 00:06
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

Yeah no point rushing back over there staight away.
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September 11, 2005, 01:05
Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN
722 posts

Hostonce's hosting of Boolean Soup is expiring this DECEMBER 11.
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September 11, 2005, 02:02
PEader
お前はもう死んでいる
1486 posts

hostonce fucking sucks the motherload
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September 11, 2005, 04:32
Fiona
games are terrible
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That doesn't give us a great deal of time, but thanks for the heads up Whood.
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October 1, 2005, 15:16
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

Hm, Woody. Booleansoup.com is registered fully on your name. This means you should be able to change the DNS adress the domain points too yourself. Can you? Even if Hostonce doesn't allow you too, you have the full right to do so, and nobody would be able to stop you.
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October 1, 2005, 16:29
Dazzy
None
21 posts
Sometimes hosts don't allow you access to the DNS system if this is the case, and I recommend this, tansfer the domian to another register which isn't your host, then you always have full control over the domain and its dns entries.

[Edited on October 1, 2005 by Dazzy]
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October 1, 2005, 16:53
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

I've told Wood to transfer it countless times - but apparently you need a password to be able to transfer it to a new registrar.
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October 1, 2005, 17:46
Fiona
games are terrible
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Yeah, every domain has like a password or key or something and when you transfer to another registrar they need it.

Hostonce did not give Woody the password and even when he asked for it again he didn't get it.
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October 1, 2005, 18:47
Rincewind
programmer
1546 posts

Quoting WHOIS lookup:
Registrant:
Ian Nicholas (BOOLEANSOUP-COM-DOM)
7 Gerry Street
Stoneham, MA 02180
US
+781.438.8963
ghotistix mAT gmail zDOT com

Domain Name: BOOLEANSOUP.COM
Status: PROTECTED

Administrative Contact:
Ian Nicholas ghotistix mAT gmail zDOT com
7 Gerry Street
Stoneham, MA 02180
US
+781.438.8963

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Ian Nicholas ghotistix mAT gmail zDOT com
7 Gerry Street
Stoneham, MA 02180
US
+781.438.8963

Record last updated on 24-Jul-2005.
Record expires on 11-Dec-2005.
Record created on 11-Dec-2004.

Domain servers in listed order:

Name Server: dns1.ourdnsinfo.com
Name Server: dns2.ourdnsinfo.com


The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

Show underlying registry data for this record



Current Registrar: IHOLDINGS.COM, INC. D/B/A DOTREGISTRAR.COM
IP Address: 208.170.149.155 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-NORTH CAROLINA-LUMBERTON
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: IIS 5
Lock Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Web Site Status: Active
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Web Site Title: Boolean Soup - News
Secure: No
E-commerce: No
Traffic Ranking: Not available
Data as of: 03-Aug-2005


Hosting companies don't actually register the domains theirselves, but outsource these jobs to specialized companies. Booleansoup.com's registrar seems to be 'DotRegistrar'. What you can do, is try to make an account or something on Dotregistrars website, and send them an e-mail with a question to move the domain from Hostonce's account to your account.

Please note that this is not a domain transfer, since the domain isn't moved from one registrar to another. It's just that the domain can be taken from Hostonce's account on DotRegistrar and put on a new account for woody.

If you can't make a free account on the website of your registrar, then just mail them.

I did this before, and had to identify myself with a copy of my ID so the registrar could see the domain was mine. Then I could move the domain from my bankrupt host's account to a new account of mine. Sadly I couldn't actually do this because I had to pay 10 dollar or something for such an account, and I had big paying troubles (since it was an american company, and didn't accept non-verified paypal accounts).

[Edited on October 2, 2005 by Rincewind]
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October 1, 2005, 19:16
Dazzy
None
21 posts
I had this problem with our companies domains, and Nominet sorted it, but they only handle .uk domains, if you find out who regulates .com domains they can force a transfer for a nominal fee.
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October 2, 2005, 02:35
Fiona
games are terrible
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We DID contact dotregistrar, I do not recall the reply.
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laffo
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October 2, 2005, 15:01
PEader
お前はもう死んでいる
1486 posts

Don't you just ask the company to turn off the
"REGISTRAR-LOCK" then you can transfer the domain to another company. Where does a password come into it?
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October 2, 2005, 20:08
Fiona
games are terrible
-9616558 posts

It's to prove you are the owner.
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laffo
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October 2, 2005, 21:32
Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac
703 posts

We know were you live Woddey - and we're comin' ta GETCHA!
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