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| March 1, 2006, 15:23 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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What is the most common language for programmers do you think? Is there a common language? I mean if you were going to write an article about programming what language should you examples use and what APIs/SDKs do reach the largest audience possible. Or do you think you should use any language you like as long as you explain the process in detail so it can be adapted by anyone using the tutorial? Maybe provide the article in several versions with several languages? I know I used to read gamedev's articles and adapt them to Div but sometimes it is cool to be able to download, compile and run sample code without any hassle. So I'm of the use any language you like as long as the methodology is explained. Unlike step by step tutorials you also learn something! YAY. I tend to prefer learing to doing sometimes. Like when you make your first hello world program everyone except you thinks it is shit. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| March 1, 2006, 16:42 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts 
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Pseudocode.
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| March 1, 2006, 18:54 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts
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Quoting Eckolin: Pseudocode. Psuedocode sucks and you still need to follow along with a language unless you want to make up your own one. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| March 1, 2006, 18:57 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
I know it's shit when I make my first Hello World program, but it's HELLO WORLD, ffs. The most profound coding tradition. In my book, anyway... ____________ My site still needs updating and redesigning. My last.fm page. GO TO TEXTUAL ANARCHY II YOU FISHDOG YOU |
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| March 11, 2006, 04:22 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
I read some UML books with Java examples. One of Craig Larman (Applying UML and patterns) and one of Alan Shalloway (design patterns). This last one was based on a book called "Gang of Four" which uses C++ examples. Shalloway's version was less complicated and easier to understand. I think most business programmers documentate snippets in Java or .NET (preferably C#)
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| March 11, 2006, 10:55 | |
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PEader
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What is your point or are you just saying tht you read thesebooks? What about Z Schemeas then?
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| March 13, 2006, 15:11 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
I mean it doesn't matter if you have a general, common language because everyone uses one of his own preference anyway. And I'm ashamed that I was ordered to read those books because the subject doesn't care me a lot.
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| March 13, 2006, 15:47 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts
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Quoting Rhovanion: I mean it doesn't matter if you have a general, common language because everyone uses one of his own preference anyway. This is precisely the reason why you need a common way to design i.e. UML and Z-Schemas. I wasn't asking for a common language just what would be most understood. I mean if you wanted to do it properly you would write using Z Schemas then everyone would be able to understand the code/way it works. Allegedlly. ____________ I see 57,005 people. |
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| March 13, 2006, 16:22 | |
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Eckolin
Quite Whiskered 388 posts
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Quoting PEader: Quoting Eckolin: Pseudocode. Psuedocode sucks and you still need to follow along with a language unless you want to make up your own one.Well, it is used in my various study books as far as common language goes. Whether or not it is the best choice is a different matter. [Edited on March 13, 2006 by Eckolin] ____________ Maker of Games... Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Need help with coding? I probably wrote something similar. |
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| March 13, 2006, 17:11 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
Agreed. Although psuedo code is not really a language as such, it's important for building up a concept of how an althogrim works, and it's compatible with all languages as a prorgamming aid 
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| March 18, 2006, 12:31 | |
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Caspah
Gladiator 203 posts |
*hates having to write pseudo code*
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| March 18, 2006, 20:28 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts 
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Not sure if this is what is asked, but on my school they teached me UML, so obviously that would be my choice to use for design...
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| March 21, 2006, 22:25 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
pseudo code as a new syntax is unnecessary but it can be useful to write short snippets in C to test certain things. Or else create interfaces for java that have been fully tested and work independantly (encapsulated stront). By interfaces I also mean those "include" things you use in fenix, so you don't have to reinvent every line code all over all the time. [Edited on March 21, 2006 by Rhovanion] ____________ |
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| December 23, 2009, 10:42 | |
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Dennis
どこかにいる 2092 posts 
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Now that I think of it again, why would you need an esperanto? It's like real languages. There is no universal language so they just picked one to be the universal one, coincidentically English. People do not use standard code for examples but rather schemes and diagrams with process flows or object relations. There is no actual code written in a language that does not exist, and if there is it is very company-dependant which one they use. Stff like: read the csv and loop through records. update clients set status = column3 If updated rows = 0 insert client set status = thirdColumn endif That's not code, they just write whatever they want. So basic answer: Quoting PEader: 1) What is the most common language for programmers do you think? 2) Is there a common language? 1) Depends what kind of programmer (business, graphical, ...) 2) No, not a universal one Edit: Company-dependant instead of independant [Edited on December 23, 2009 by Dennis] ____________ Kwakkel |
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| December 23, 2009, 15:44 | |
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Mezzmer
Square-theorist 792 posts 
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If it's an object oriented languages, you would commonly use UML and class diagrams. But PEader as usual I find your post a rather discussional start to a thread rather than a question? As for explaining a program (which is what I think you mean) there are many types of approach, and there is not a universal language for this. As for Bennu/Fenix, I would say unfortunately spanish? LOL ____________ |
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