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| November 24, 2005, 22:07 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts 
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The bible says the only way to get to God is through Jesus Christ. Jesus praid for forgiveness of those who killed him, so who am I to say that any one of you would go to hell? I am a sinner my self, but I live in his grace. What right would I have to say "I'm forgiven, but you'll go to hell"? I do believe you have to accept the gift that Jesus gave, to recieve God's grace. But other than that, I won't judge over who goes to hell and who goes to Heaven. You should know where you stand with God yourself. ____________ |
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| February 15, 2006, 14:49 | |
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Caspah
Gladiator 203 posts |
Homosexuals: i got no problem with them as long as they dont touch my ass the Religious: i have no problem with them as long as they dont preach/spout shit about their faith. ingraining moral values can be done without God/Jesus/Muhammed ____________ "clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. here i am, stuck in the middle with you." ~Stealers Wheel |
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| February 15, 2006, 20:31 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
It's not a good idea to constantly enforce religious messages on me, as I'm the sort of person who would then religiously offend you out of spite. Same with animal rights actavists and pro-choice/pro life people. Regardless of my views on the matter, if someone else enforces their anti-fox hunting/anti-abortion/anti-whatever views on me, I go against them and offend them and put down their views out of spite. Even if I agree with them. In the words of Maddox; I'm not pro choice, or pro life, I'm pro you shutting the hell up. [Edited on February 15, 2006 by Deadmaster] ____________ My site still needs updating and redesigning. My last.fm page. GO TO TEXTUAL ANARCHY II YOU FISHDOG YOU |
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| February 15, 2006, 21:41 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts 
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Quoting Caspah: Homosexuals: i got no problem with them as long as they dont touch my ass This is a highly homophobic and stereotypical statement. I wont stand for it.
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| February 15, 2006, 23:24 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts 
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You can touch my arse all night long as I'm totally cool with my sexuality (so no-one thinks I'm no less heterosexual and macho).
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| February 16, 2006, 09:31 | |
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Caspah
Gladiator 203 posts |
Quoting Ferret: Quoting Caspah: Homosexuals: i got no problem with them as long as they dont touch my ass This is a highly homophobic and stereotypical statement. I wont stand for it.i dont see whats wrong with it. i have absolutely no problem with alternative sexuality but once its paraded in my face it becomes a problem. ____________ "clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. here i am, stuck in the middle with you." ~Stealers Wheel |
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| February 17, 2006, 00:03 | |
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Fiona
games are terrible -9616558 posts
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You're insinuating that just becasue someone is of a certain sexuality they would see some sort of insaitable need to *ahem * "touch your ass". Which is complete crap and is a homophobic stereotype. And what do you mean paraded in your face? Why should you care? That sounds a bit weird to me. Do you have a problem by seiing a black person in the street? I'm sure that because they're black, it's being paraded in your face and you have a problem with it. ____________ laffo |
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| February 17, 2006, 00:18 | |
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Deadmaster
Where is Johnny? 458 posts |
I think by "parading", he means "touching him in his personal places". Or possibly stuff like "WE'RE QUEER, WE'RE HERE, GET USED TO IT!" (gay pride parade). I dunno. We were talking about Mergan?
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| February 17, 2006, 00:22 | |
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Woody
HEAD BLACK MAN 722 posts 
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bums3x lol
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| February 17, 2006, 00:37 | |
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PEader
お前はもう死んでいる 1486 posts 
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My love is unconditional whether your steer or queer. In my experience homosexuals aren't overtly sexual, since they tend to be quite normal people trying to fit in rather then trying to stick out.
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| February 17, 2006, 03:06 | |
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Rhovanion
Exterminated 666 posts |
Quoting PB: I brought up this subject through a submittion to the boredome thread (where I included a line in my drawwing stating "There is a God and He loves you, no matter what you have done!"). I thought it would be misplaced to discuss that line there, so I started this topic. Anyway, yeah I believe that there is a God that loves you unconditionally. That doesn't mean that He likes everything you do, it may well be that he disgusts some of the things you do. But no matter what you do/did, still God loves you. Au contraire to most religions I think God is a rather abstract term. For a long time I have thought there is no God at all (atheism), now I think there is something that we may be reffering to as a God. But the most abstract thing there is. God is not something that created us, we created God, and whatever we decided Him to be. If we didn't exist no one would've have talked about Him, hence there would be no God at all. Long before today people believed that the sky could drop down on us. If you claim this now, they will find you insane. If you claim what you know now 2000 years ago (you go back in time) they will find you insane and become accused of blasphemy. All this "God did this and that" is in fact never true, because there are many differences in what people around the globe talk about. God evolved the same way we did. As long we evolve God will too because it is a part of our own consciousness. Every culture has its own "image" of what God actually is. I think God is the most difficult and abstract term that describes a human being. People always will want to blame or accuse something for what happened. (e.g. if your girlfriend gets killed and they found "someone" you don't care he did it, as long he stands trial). If there is no one to blame (like in an accident), many believers will blame God and ask Him why He took that life. For most people God is just a strong subject where they can find grip to, they can trust His judgement and they find their consolence in Him. (e.g. no one listens to me, but I can still pray, He will listen to me). If you did something terrible (like murder someone), and you can not forgive yourself, you can hope God forgives you and it will help you. about the homosexual thing: I think homosexual people (NB: I don't say "homosexuals" because they are not a species, the term is merely a characteristic) are still being discriminated in lots of cultures. I believe in freedom of speech, but don't overdo it. If you make this an obessession you will always feel yourself discriminated in any way. And stereotypes exist everywhere. They are bad but a normal human reaction. *whew, finally* if you got here, thanks for reading all of it lol. ____________ |
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| February 17, 2006, 04:10 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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I love that lol at the end there, Dennis. It's inspired.
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| February 17, 2006, 19:02 | |
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Frimkron
Frustrated Megalomaniac 703 posts 
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Dennis I dare you to put "lol" at the end of your thesis.
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| February 18, 2006, 07:33 | |
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rockford
Oldskool 94 posts 
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Quote: Is God's love unconditional? I suppose it depends if his name is Allah or not...  [Edited on February 18, 2006 by rockford] ____________ I came, I saw, I played some Nintendo. |
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| February 24, 2006, 16:47 | |
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PB
Defender of the faith 630 posts
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Well thanks for sharing your view Dennis. I hope you'll continue to search for what truth there is behind God, so that you'll find out that He's more than a concept or the creation of the human mind. But I respect that you've thought about it. As for homosexuallity, I try to have a biblical view on this. But not the steriotypical view of a Christian on homosexuality. I believe that everybody is a sinner, and I do believe that having sex outside of mariage is wrong. I also believe that having sex with someone of the same sex is wrong. However I do know that many Christians and non-Christians do have sex outside of mariage and I know several Christians who have homosexual feelings. I even have someone in the family who is married to someone with the same sex (as you probably know, this is alowed in The Netherlands). I don't know them that well unfotunately (I live not close to my familly), but I've heared that they are churchgoing, so I asume them to be Christians. So although I do think it's a sin to have sex with someone of the same sex, I do think it's wrong to hate people for it. And I think that's most important. I see homosexual people as humans who are atracted to people with the same sex. This means that they have to deal with different temptations, nothing more or less. I should love them just like any other human. I hope that this view is understood and not mistaken for discrimination... ____________ |
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| February 25, 2006, 02:59 | |
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TheMI3
Starving Artist 520 posts
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I totally understand where you're coming from PB, and it's a view many people share. 'I support equal rights. I treat everyone as bad as each other.' ____________ This is my Blog. There are many like it, but this one is mine! (Now actual posts on it) http://www.chiefillustrator.com |
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Message Board > Manly Pandas (Probably NSFW) > Is God's love unconditional?